B C Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 E46 330 ZHPMini Cooper SFocus ST (hatchback)GTi 2.0TMustang (V8)EvoForester XTHow did you like them?What did you dislike about them?In what ways do you prefer your BMW to them?I am not really in the market for a new car, but I havent driven any of these cars (drove a 330 a long time ago but cant really remember much about it) and was wondering how you like them?I sometimes think of selling my E30 and getting a new Focus ST or something that would attempt to satisfy the practical and enthusiast desires simultaneously but I have a hunch that I would be missing the E30 if I did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc43089 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 E46 330 ZHPMini Cooper SFocus ST (hatchback)GTi 2.0TMustang (V8)EvoForester XTHow did you like them?What did you dislike about them?In what ways do you prefer your BMW to them?I am not really in the market for a new car, but I havent driven any of these cars (drove a 330 a long time ago but cant really remember much about it) and was wondering how you like them?I sometimes think of selling my E30 and getting a new FARTUS ST or something that would attempt to satisfy the practical and enthusiast desires simultaneously but I have a hunch that I would be missing the E30 if I did that. There, fixed that for you, the problem with those is that the engine is in there sideways... On a more helpful note I have driven a 2008 cooper s, it was a soft top, which I didn't care for. The 6spd was great, plenty of power, handled well, but back to the sideways engine driving the wrong wheels again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsbimmer1 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 E46 330ZHP- Absolute blast to drive and all of the niceties of an E46 and only a few ponies short of E36 M3 Horsepower. Can't really say I didn't like anything about driving it. If you like driving an E46 you will like this. Mini Cooper S- The supercharged model is fun but the turbo model gives you a bit more. The shifting is direct and the steering is like being in a go-kart on steroids! The interior is roomier than you would expect. I wasn't really impressed with the interior materials but I understand that it is meant to hit a cheaper price point. Overall, it was a great drivers car and I would definitely recommend one. Mustang V8- Depends on the year. the S197's have a much nicer interior than previous generations but still very plasticy. Any of the generations are great to pound on and cheap to modify. I would never go any older than the New Edge Mustangs which started in 1999. Great as a second car but I wouldn't want to daily any Mustang. Evo - I drove an Evo 9 MR and it was FAST. It was stock and at the time was by far the quickest car I had ever driven. It will plant you in the seat at the thought of dropping a gear and flooring it. The ride was stiff and the interior was cheap, noisy and uncomfortable. With that being said, I understand this car was made to go fast and that's what it does well. Another one that I would own as a fun car but not daily. Forester XT - Surprisingly quick. I believe the one I drove was an 04 and I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at until I popped the hood for my inspection. I did a little bit of research after that and I got a little giddy. The interior is typical Subaru of the time and by that I mean it works... but it's not pretty. I would definitely recommend somebody buy one of these that wants an AWD vehicle to daily. The reason I prefer BMW over all of these is the interior quality is better, the ride quality is nicer while still being sporty. The engine sounds gorgeous, and has power when you need it. BMW never fails to put a smile on my face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassboy3313 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well explained! I for one have never driven any of these, but definitely wouldnt mind taking a spin in them to test drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowleym Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I personally would love a forester with a STI drivetrain, even though subaru's are stupid. I like the wrx wagon for part hauling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserRolls Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Snap. If you sell your e30. I will burn my car and erase all knowledge of you. jc43089 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnt m3 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I have driven all but the focus but have no desire to type out all my thoughts on these hahaha patsbimmer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Are there any that you would consider if you decided to sell both your M3 and your Touring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnt m3 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 On that list, not a chance. If there was a zhp touring offered, I would replace my current touring. I have driven a handful of zhp's and they are relatively fun, just not fun enough to replace an M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosis Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 The Mini Cooper S was on my short list a few years ago, but I ended up with a Subaru Legacy GT instead. When I told my wife that I was considering a Mini, her response was "what are you - a faggot?". patsbimmer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industrialsized Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 if i ever felt like it was time to be a reasonable person and stop driving e36's i would have to choose between a countryman, s1 elise, v8 genesis, Lada 1600, and a z4 coupe that said i have not yet driven the ford st or the subie xt although im sure the focus drives very well with a ton of lift off oversteer and the subie is like every subie very reliable save for the every 65,000 mile catastrophic break down and having a driving experience wrot with deadly understeer. it seems to me the rallyart lancer would fit the bill for you nicely or perhaps an a3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCR Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 E46 330ZHP- Absolute blast to drive and all of the niceties of an E46 and only a few ponies short of E36 M3 Horsepower. Can't really say I didn't like anything about driving it. If you like driving an E46 you will like this. Mini Cooper S- The supercharged model is fun but the turbo model gives you a bit more. The shifting is direct and the steering is like being in a go-kart on steroids! The interior is roomier than you would expect. I wasn't really impressed with the interior materials but I understand that it is meant to hit a cheaper price point. Overall, it was a great drivers car and I would definitely recommend one. The reason I prefer BMW over all of these is the interior quality is better, the ride quality is nicer while still being sporty. The engine sounds gorgeous, and has power when you need it. BMW never fails to put a smile on my face. I agree with Pat on these, I've also driven a 2.0T GTI. They are fun in a straight line but that is it, handling just isn't as good compared to the Mini. patsbimmer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan... Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 GF owns a Cooper S, supercharged. I like it a lot, fun to drive, the 6 speed feels really nice. However, the ride is quite bumpy, decent amount of road noise, obvious lack of space, etc... In the future I'll likely own one myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I see that the Kirbys have multiplied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserRolls Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I see that the Kirbys have multiplied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspenceful Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 GF owns a Cooper S, supercharged. I like it a lot, fun to drive, the 6 speed feels really nice. However, the ride is quite bumpy, decent amount of road noise, obvious lack of space, etc... In the future I'll likely own one myself. Literally wrote exactly what I was going to write. Girlfriend has an '06 Cooper S, supercharged. Has a smaller pulley, intake, exhaust, and a few other bits. Very nimble and fun to drive, with the power to back it up. HK sound system is very nice, hers is fully loaded with all kinds of options. Factory HID projectors, integrated GPS, etc, and it all functions flawlessly. If I wasn't used to my 240whp Miata, I'd be very impressed with her car. Feels like a refined go-kart. Like Ryan said, the only downsides are the bouncy ride, road noise, and lack of space. Technically being a BMW, it also carries the horribly sagging headliner. Trunk might be smaller than that of my Miata, but at least you can fold down the rear seats. I never would have even considered a Cooper S... until driving hers. Now I'd definitely rock one. I'm very close to having her buy coilovers... Before painting rims and all trim black: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icuc Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 My wife has a MINI Countryman ALL4 and it is a fun car to drive. It is is true that the ride is not smooth and don't like the noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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