B C Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I checked my ARP torque after ~20 heat cycles and they had lost a little torque. There is a lot at play when you have that many items stacking up when cold, then subjecting them to multiple heat cycles. I suspect some internal stresses exist when you first mount the cylinder head due to very small misalignments and fasteners causing preloads in different items. After some heat cycling these internal stresses relocate or cause the component to relax and causes a slight torque loss. Just a hypothesis. They dont need to be babysat, but checking them after some heat cycles is a requirement for me. Rowleym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html They have an 87mm cut ring gasket for ya! Everyone is raving about them on BF.C But yes, you can O ring it still, but that would take a trip to the machine shop. Cut ring is faster/easier. I have a call into them. Going to ask if they have different thicknesses IF I have to resurface the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowleym Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Give them a call! But they have different thicknesses for sure, and you have to resurface the head for sure as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowleym Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I also agree with snap. Maybe you don't need to re torque on most applications, but I'd say this is one of those applications where it's always good to take the extra precaution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Time me. And go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 hut hut hike! 1alligator2alligator3alligator4alligator5alligator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Do you also have to take your turbo off to get your valve cover off? I suppose if you are taking your head off it is coming off anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Camshaft time.. oh goodness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserRolls Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Don'tbreakdontbreakdonrbreakdontbreak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 None broken. No tools used except for an 11mm and a Cresent Wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserRolls Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 God damn that harbor freight life is everywhere! B C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 The head gasket replacement journey.Keeping organized.Too much wear?I can feel this one with my fingernail.Now I just need to disconnect my downpipe and remove the ARP head bolts and see the carnage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc43089 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 No excuses! I replaced the headgasket and had everything back on except the exhaust on a Saturday, a week before I got married actually. Good work, I have an extra set of caps if you need some. Sent from my potato phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Question. If some show some wear do I need new caps, carrier and cam? I feel one journal with my fingernail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 It is doubtful that you would have much success with other bearing caps since they are machined as a unit with the head and even running the caps that are mounted in the wrong location (originally machined for exhaust cam bearing #3 but using it on intake cam bearing #3) can be problematic When I was 17 I found this out the hard way when using a bearing cap from another engine and not being able to turn the engine over even with the bearing cap well under-torqued at 15ft-lb. I would scotch brite the scuff lightly to help knock down the edge a little and just not worry about it remembering that even at 7000 rpm your cams are only turning 3500 and arent under nearly the same load as the bearings on the crank. DrLeadFoot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Man that is nasty! Looks like a milkshake that I would not be interested in drinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 It wasn't all that bad from other pictures I've seen. I talked to John and ECS and he said he has sold hundreds of these head gaskets and hasn't had one customer come back with a complaint. Link to head gasket info: http://www.cesmotorsport.com/documents/94.html Oil cooler ideas w/ links. Oil cooler cap: http://www.rallyroad.net/content/oil-cooler-cap Thermostat: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ctr-22-480/overview/ Cooler(s): https://www.cantonracingproducts.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?search=action&category=2350 - Not sure of what to do with the cooler size. I haven't measured anything yet but thinking I could run two of the smaller Canton coolers in tandem behind and to the left and right of the kidney. Or do I just go S54 oil cooler and call it a day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Ideas of where to mount another gauge? Don't want to do the A-pillar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnt m3 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I don't know if it would work but the upper center vent would be a prime spot in an e30. I've also heard great things about the CES cutring gaskets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLeadFoot Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I don't know if it would work but the upper center vent would be a prime spot in an e30. I've also heard great things about the CES cutring gaskets. I'm probably going to go with a single gauge in the left center vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I run 3 gauges in my center vent, fits perfectly and has a nice clean look, not sure what you have there. Get an s54 oil filter housing, way cheaper. You can get them new for like $370 if you really wanted something new. All you have to do it is drill out the ports a smidge, run a 3/8NPT tap into them and put a 3/8NPT - 10AN adapter in. Run the lines to the cooler of your choice. The S54 housing has a built in thermostat so you do not have to worry about adding one externally. Mine solved my 250+ degree oil issues! Do you have oil temp issues right now? Two coolers may be overkill, I have a pretty small one and it works just fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 http://www.podi.ca/VentPackages.aspx?CarID=15 patsbimmer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsbimmer1 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 http://www.podi.ca/VentPackages.aspx?CarID=15They make a nice gauge! My brother in law has it in his A6 and loves it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 There are mixed reviews of those on the e30 forums, a lot of people have major issues with them, and others have good luck. I think they are awesome, but killer expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 That's cheap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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