B C Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 None on the Z3 thoughhttp://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=CJ33&mospid=48094&btnr=32_0630&hg=32&fg=25I am using E30 tie rods with the Z3 rack, there is nothing special about the Z3 rack that would aid in tie-rod retention. The primary reason for the lock plate from my own observation is to keep the inner tie rod from loosening during an alignment. But take what I say as typical forum hearsay, I was not present in the ZF steering rack design meetings to be able to know the exact reasons why. Im not from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 lol I wasn't ripping on you Snap=) I trust your word over most things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Oh I know, no rustlin over here. I want to make sure I am not feeding bad information so I do my best to backup what I say when there may be question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhundley Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Earl and snap are going to fight to the death Saturday morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 things get tense when your project isnt finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 "Snap said..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc43089 Posted May 7, 2014 Report Share Posted May 7, 2014 Just to throw in my 2 cents, my 2/94 e36 steering rack has lock plates. If you are going with just loctite, make sure you get the threads clean with brakeclean or something so that the loctite actually works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 So replacement inner tie rod ends are "fatter", so not enough overhang to bend washer flanges down.... Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc43089 Posted May 8, 2014 Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Eh, just giver! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2014 Blue loctite and DUN... Taking to work tomorrow as a test run for Saturday... Kinda worried still about the quasi-whine thing from rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Well... Might not make GTG now on Saturday.Broke upper bearing spring seat on coils, having pieces brought to machine shop tomorrow to hopefully remake. Long story - to angry and tired to elaborate... So pics and info tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Well - three emails back and forth to Igor already tonight (he must be up late - it's friggen 11:15pm). Bedtime - tired and sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 =/ It seems to be a super simple piece so getting it machined today shouldn't be impossible. This does sucks though=( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Yeah, I don't think it'll be a big deal. I'm more upset I'll have zero wheel time to troubleshoot any issues before hoping on a highway tomorrow AM. We're having both sets of parents over tomorrow night for a birthday dinner for my mom - so can't get wrenching until after that...If it wasn't for the last minute - nothing would ever get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 Im in the same boat as far as driving an un-proven setup an uncomfortable distance from home. Luckily you are NA and luckily its not too far from my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasnt m3 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 If it makes it around the block, it'll make it around the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc43089 Posted May 9, 2014 Report Share Posted May 9, 2014 AAA FTW, speaking of unproven cars. I am taking my family to Alabama next week in the vert which has less than 500 miles on the swap and a bunch of other work. Living on the edge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 162 miles on the car Saturday.... Drive quite well. Steering rack has some play in it, just enough to vibrate the steering wheel and be annoying, so putting that on my short list of stuff to do before Scooters.Current list to accomplish before Scooters:-Paint/Replace exterior trim pieces (vents under windshield, etc...)-Get windshield replaced- Install stereo system (replace deck, get sub/amp in, etc...)-Tear apart engine bay and paint/coat/remove/replace so it's more gooder looking.Also promised my wife I'd get re-started on finishing our basement.... So gonna be some long nights and weekends this month again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 If the steering rack has slop in it and it is not related to tie-rods, loose mounting hardware, loose steering shaft collar nut (airbag cars only) or worn steering coupler, then you could try adjusting the gear lash in the rack by tightening the 22mm screw on the bottom of the steering shaft housing. Something to try before going for a whole new rack ClassE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserRolls Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 If the steering rack has slop in it and it is not related to tie-rods, loose mounting hardware, loose steering shaft collar nut (airbag cars only) or worn steering coupler, then you could try adjusting the gear lash in the rack by tightening the 22mm screw on the bottom of the steering shaft housing. Something to try before going for a whole new rack Or get z3 rack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 If the steering rack has slop in it and it is not related to tie-rods, loose mounting hardware, loose steering shaft collar nut (airbag cars only) or worn steering coupler, then you could try adjusting the gear lash in the rack by tightening the 22mm screw on the bottom of the steering shaft housing. Something to try before going for a whole new rackExcellent - I'll give it a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I do have a spare steering joint with good u-joints that would be a perfect candidate for a flex disk replacement in case you find its the u-joints that are sloppy. The steering joints pull a premuium, new or used anytime before or after race wars. 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Poly steering coupler ordered! I'll wait to pull everything apart till it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowleym Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Poly steering coupler ordered! I'll wait to pull everything apart till it arrives. Wanna measure it when you get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassE Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Sure - looking to make a solid version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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