stealthbimmer Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Right place for this? I dont care, Im posting it here So, I bought a set of style 42s for next to nothing....they need refinishing, lots of it. Anyways, so I started the tear down and Ive got a few questions. Firstly, it looks like someone may have attempted to "refinish" these at some other point by spraying the whole wheel silver. The lips are peeling, but it isnt just clear coat, its paint (right?). Secondly, it appears the bolts have paint on the heads that is beginning to chip during removal. These were bare and not painted from factory, correct? I was under the impression these bolts had loctite from the factory. They released with a bit of effort w/o heating. The thread do not look like they have any sort of threadlock on them. Maybe they have been dissembled in the past? The bolt holes have quite a bit of corrosion in them. What is the best course of action to clean the threads out? So, thats the start. Anybody have an ideas on the best way to remove the paint from the bolt faces? Soak in paint stripper, rinse, then tumble/polish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 The lips and hardware are clear coated from the factory. You'll want to have the hardware ceramic polished or paint the heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted October 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thats what I thought. But that doesnt look like clear coat coming off, correct? Will ceramic polishing remove the coating, or do I need to strip that off first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Soaking them in vinegar is your best bet. Your pictures aren't showing up for me at work but I know Style 5's have ridiculously thick clear on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straight6pwr Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 vinegar removed both the paint and the zinc plating of my style 5 bolts. however, the style 42 bolts are titanium, i believe, so maybe its safe to do that? otherwise, i'd suggest something more specific to paint removal that wont harm the plating. pro tip: put the bolts in a hand drill chuck and use the rotation to help with cleaning/polishing each bolt head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 I wrote an entire thread about refinishing wheels and never posted it... Anyways.. they look like someone painted them once before in the past. That is the factory paint/ powdercoating flaking off of the rim faces. The aluminum underneath somehow (rockchip or curbing?) was exposed and started to corrode under the finish. This normally happens from road salt and other caustic materials reacting with each other. The material contamination then expands and pushes the coating off of the wheels causing the flaking. ( Similar to water freezing and expanding) I would suggest vinegar or aircraft remover on the bolts depending on how fussy the coating is to remove. I would then tumble clean them( plastic or stone media as this will remove contaminated from the threads too without harming them) followed up with a tumble polish (wallnut or corn husk with a polishing medium added). The following are the stages I described: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted October 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Thanks for the info guys. Kinda what I figured. What size tumbler is that? I need to purchase one. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted October 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 So I am thinking about getting the faces media blasted like I did with my oz fittipaldis (for ease). It looks like whoever painted these last just sprayed the whole wheels,barrels and all. Would media blasting hurt the lips at all if I just got everything blasted? Obviously they would require polishing after,but I am just thinking about ease of stripping everything. The barrels are all peeling on the inside as well Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted October 19, 2017 Report Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 0:38 AM, stealthbimmer said: Thanks for the info guys. Kinda what I figured. What size tumbler is that? I need to purchase one. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Its not a very large one. Harbor freight sized. LOL. On 10/16/2017 at 8:58 PM, stealthbimmer said: So I am thinking about getting the faces media blasted like I did with my oz fittipaldis (for ease). It looks like whoever painted these last just sprayed the whole wheels,barrels and all. Would media blasting hurt the lips at all if I just got everything blasted? Obviously they would require polishing after,but I am just thinking about ease of stripping everything. The barrels are all peeling on the inside as well Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk I would suggest aircraft remover first. Most media that is abrasive enough to remove the paint will also be abrasive enough to change the surface texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Well, I finally decided to stop staring at these things sitting in my office and actually start dissembling them. So.....just for future reference. Nobody try using an impact to remove the bolts. At least it was only one bolt. So, now I get to figure out what to do about that. Just glue the head in place once I get them all put back together? That being said. Breaker bar made easy work removing the bolts. Now, any ideas on how to get the centers out besides bigger hammer. I didnt really whack at them to hard today because, well, I couldnt find my good sledge. I also had my son with me who has to help with everything....dont need any ER trips. Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 BFRM(BigF*ckingRubberMallet) and blocks of wood for removing the faces. I normally use an impact removing wheel hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekpoint Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 3 hours ago, stealthbimmer said: What kind of wheels are on the right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 They're Fittipaldis=) Corvette fitment I assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 BFRM(BigF*ckingRubberMallet) and blocks of wood for removing the faces. I normally use an impact removing wheel hardware. That's what I figured. They are really correded. Impact would probably be fine on wheels that aren't in such bad/corroded condition....or use a bolt and nut. First one came out fine. Second one snapped. I did the whole wheel with a breaker bar and ratchet in like 5 minutes, so not worth the risk to save mere minutes Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 They're Fittipaldis=) Corvette fitment I assume? They are indeed fittipaldis. 17x8.5 I believe 5x120 et13 I think I have only come across like one other set with the same specs. They need to be finished though. I have the faces stripped and the lips sanded. Two barrels have bends or cracks so I need to get those taken care of before anything. I have been sitting on them for years. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2017 Welp. Only one wheel let me have its bolts free of charge. As for the others, they were snapping even with only using the breaker bar. I even tried heat first....they were destine to break. Anyways, I said F it and just took the impact to them all. This was the end result So, not sure what I am going to do with these at this point. I still havent been able to get a face seperated from a barrel. So, if I cant even do that, nothing is going to happen. Worst case scenario is Im out $50 and I plastidip the one good one and hang it on a wall or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 So do the face bolts thread into the barrels? Did you try using heat? Getting all those snapped bolts out of there is gonna suck if they are still in the barrel. As far as removing the face I would just use wood, a foam floor tile and work around the perimeter until its off. Or make a jig like this guy LOL: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straight6pwr Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 scrap aluminum alloy wheels are something like $0.50/lb with the weight of these boat anchors, your looking at $40-50 if you scrap these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 1:51 PM, straight6pwr said: scrap aluminum alloy wheels are something like $0.50/lb with the weight of these boat anchors, your looking at $40-50 if you scrap these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 So do the face bolts thread into the barrels? Did you try using heat? Getting all those snapped bolts out of there is gonna suck if they are still in Yes bolts thread into barrel. I tried heat. The bolts that broke were going to brake no matter what. They are just that corroded. If I can ever actually get a face off I will see if the snapped bolts are even removable. At this point I am likely just writing them off as a lost cause. Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 scrap aluminum alloy wheels are something like $0.50/lb with the weight of these boat anchors, your looking at $40-50 if you scrap these. Hey atleast I would get the $50 I paid for them back Sent from my SM-G930R4 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekpoint Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 *Cough* Someone *Cough* Should do this *Cough* Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2148128-Anyone-removed-a-stripped-or-broken-bolt-from-a-two-piece-wheel-(Style-42-or-71) Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealthbimmer Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 hours ago, Earl said: https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2148128-Anyone-removed-a-stripped-or-broken-bolt-from-a-two-piece-wheel-(Style-42-or-71) None of my bolt heads stripped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 It says "or broken" right in the title lol. I was posting it just to show that you can buy new bolts and that they're surprisingly titanium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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