P_Roloff Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 Awesome progress, this thing keeps getting better and better. I've never noticed those center caps before lol, those are great. suspenceful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungCR Posted March 12, 2018 Report Share Posted March 12, 2018 The center caps are great haha. This thing looks knarly! Can't wait to see it in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 On 12/14/2016 at 8:02 AM, GunMetalGrey said: First appearance of those center caps lol. It's been awhile! Never had such a clear shot of them though! Hoping to hear about the fuel pump soon. It sucks having no idea if I'll be able to get one. I can't find any, it's not like I've found some and they are just too expensive, I simply can't find one. Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 Awesome progress. I like everything about this so much. Ben Pls, when are you going to install the rear flares? I want to see that happen! Also it looks so much better without the turn signals. Maybe just ad some LED bulbs somewhere instead of the large squares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Jdesign said: Awesome progress. I like everything about this so much. Ben Pls, when are you going to install the rear flares? I want to see that happen! Also it looks so much better without the turn signals. Maybe just ad some LED bulbs somewhere instead of the large squares? Rear flares will likely happen after I redo the front ones lol. I found some that should work better up front. Those turn signals do suck! There are some new ones sitting in my amazon cart. Though I do have some ideas for them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 oh me oh my, the negative camber and subsequent reduced toe in the rear scares me O__O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 I want to see this thing with 15X10's and some 35x12-15's! 7 minutes ago, snap said: oh me oh my, the negative camber and subsequent reduced toe in the rear scares me O__O It looks like positive camber in the rear to me. How far can you go till you need custom control arms.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 You are correct. I had negative in my head because it is a negative situation for autobahn stability. You get 10 internets. Only Ben can attest of its actual driving characteristics but in my brain gives me scary thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, snap said: Only Ben can attest of its actual driving characteristics but in my brain gives me scary thoughts. After the e46 control arms I have a pretty impressive amount of negative camber up front, and after the modification to the rear there is a pretty little amount of camber (nearing negative numbers...) It's a hands on driving experience for sure, and anything over 55 feels..... concerning. I never have gotten the car aligned properly yet though, so that may help the steering feel at minimum. Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 13, 2018 Report Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, snap said: You get 10 internets. B C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipMF Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 23 hours ago, snap said: oh me oh my, the negative camber and subsequent reduced toe in the rear scares me O__O Toe actually increases under droop (i know because I've measured it) so you really messed up here. -10 internets, and please don't ban me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelBlue Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 On 3/13/2018 at 9:14 AM, Jdesign said: Ben Pls Glad to see this has caught on GunMetalGrey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 33 minutes ago, HipMF said: Toe actually increases under droop (i know because I've measured it) so you really messed up here. -10 internets, and please don't ban me. But I think @snap is referring to when its actually planted on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HipMF Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Jdesign said: But I think @snap is referring to when its actually planted on the ground. Not sure what you mean, but here's the data from the e21 (if photodumpster works...): Assuming that the e30 is similar, and that the lowest toe number is roughly ride-height, toe will increase as the vehicle is lifted. These aren't the results I was expecting before I measured it. I had assumed the toe went negative under droop... B C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 14, 2018 Report Share Posted March 14, 2018 Ahhhhh I follow you now. That chart helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 How the beep does camber change linearly, but toe is parabolic?!?! Very interesting data though! Thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Mike coming in with the high quality data! I forgot that you had measured that stuff (E21) but it should be very similar to an E30 setup. In other news, I still have no idea if/when this thing will ever run with an M21 again! Woo! Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 What the heck. I decided to amuse myself at the fact that there are no M21 fuel pumps on ebay but searched anyway...https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-524TD-Or-Vixen-Motorhome-2-4td-VE-Bosch-Injection-fuel-pump-0460406025/222878757580?hash=item33e49bf2cc:g:cRkAAOSwipdapgU7&vxp=mtrhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E28-E30-E34-Diesel-Injection-Pump-M21-D24-2-4-0460406047-VER-206-BOSCH-OEM/142718684324?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49918%26meid%3D07b2a1c838434ae89f63caaa1d2c9045%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D222878757580%26itm%3D142718684324&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E28-E30-E34-M21-D24-2-4-DIESEL-INJECTION-FUEL-PUMP-0460406047-VER-206-OEM/263481727414?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D49918%26meid%3D497f8089e4f84dd9a9310ffcc3c8aadd%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D142718684324%26itm%3D263481727414&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 I'm going to call the shop that has my pump tomorrow and ask them for the numbers on the side to see if one of these will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelBlue Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 >$500 for a fuel pump >Diesel life Daggerty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 ^^THIS^^ Seriously dubyah teeaaa EEEEFFFFF. I guess if they are rare and hard to come by that makes sense for such a high value. At this point I would start to question other means of diesel injection if you cant find a pump. Thats something I know very little about. Isnt the pump timed with the motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspenceful Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 If it makes you guys feel any better, a high pressure fuel pump for the N54 isn't cheap either. And they do go bad. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assembled-by-ecs-parts/high-pressure-fuel-pump-replacement-kit/13517616446rkt/ N54 injectors commonly go bad, and they aren't cheap either! https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/fuel-injector-replacement-kit/13538616079kt/ B C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Something that has eased my mind is the simplicity of the system, and the equivalent to what is being replacing. Say I end up spending $1300 on the injectors and pump. That is like replacing the following things on a gas m20: Fuel pump (high and low pressure if applicable), fuel pressure regulator, fuel injectors, ignition coil, plug wires, spark plugs, cap and rotor, crank sensor (kinda), idle control valve, ECU, and all associated hoses. The pump and injectors are the only things that run this engine, and given how low the production numbers are it's hard to be mad at the cost. I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought the engine, and unfortunately I have had to dive in further than desired, but that's how anything seems to go. At the end of the day I'm excited about it, how many people do you know that have an M21 E30? It's worth the cost for the cool factor. P_Roloff and Jdesign 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, GunMetalGrey said: how many people do you know that have an M21 E30? I know of 1. And it currently doesnt run GunMetalGrey and Bassboy3313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 I like your optimism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted March 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2018 On 3/14/2018 at 8:48 PM, GunMetalGrey said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-524TD-Or-Vixen-Motorhome-2-4td-VE-Bosch-Injection-fuel-pump-0460406025/222878757580?hash=item33e49bf2cc:g:cRkAAOSwipdapgU7&vxp=mtr This pump right here is the only one on the internet that I can find right now that would work. I contacted him to see if he would be willing to flex on price or verify condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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