Jdesign Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, GunMetalGrey said: Anyone else confused as to how the rear has camber plates? He doesn't. They are camber blares. Some new tech we dont know about yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspenceful Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, stealthbimmer said: Bling Blang. https://appleton.craigslist.org/cto/d/1995-bmw-325i/6296750948.html I don't understand people that put an asking price, followed by a lower price they will take. Ryan..., Jdesign and Earl 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straight6pwr Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, suspenceful said: I don't understand people that put an asking price, followed by a lower price they will take. psychology 101. make the product seem like its on sale and people think the deal is better, regardless of actual value. there is a photo canvas printing company that regularly fluctuates the 'original price' so that the sale % can go up and down without changing what they actual sell the stuff for. i don't know how its legal, but apparently it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsbimmer1 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 From what I've learned in dealing with pricing as long as it's not "confusing" and the price at checkout is what's advertised then it's legal. If it's questioned it can be justified by saying website X sells widget A for $20 so we can say that it does have an original price of $20 but we sell it for $18 even if we never intended to sell it for $20. Or you can say that MSRP is $20 but we have an advertised price agreement of $18 with Widget Vendor. As long as you're not violating any breach of contract with the vendor then it's alright with them. It might not be honest but it's not confusing the buyer intentionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, patsbimmer1 said: From what I've learned in dealing with pricing as long as it's not "confusing" and the price at checkout is what's advertised then it's legal. If it's questioned it can be justified by saying website X sells widget A for $20 so we can say that it does have an original price of $20 but we sell it for $18 even if we never intended to sell it for $20. Or you can say that MSRP is $20 but we have an advertised price agreement of $18 with Widget Vendor. As long as you're not violating any breach of contract with the vendor then it's alright with them. It might not be honest but it's not confusing the buyer intentionally. I feel like this is the perfect time to bring this up.http://www.thedrive.com/news/8487/harbor-freight-tools-settles-class-action-lawsuit-over-sale-prices In short, harbor freight settled a class action lawsuit over misleading sales prices, dating back to April of 2011. Someone decided they were tired of the deceit and took action. Pretty impressive really. The deadline for turning in receipts is over now, but you were able to get 20% of the "You saved" amount on the receipt back in cash, or 30% by way of gift cards. You could use credit card statements showing purchases and get 10% back in cash without receipts. Not saying it isn't a common practice, as perceived value will always win out over true value, but it is interesting that Harbor Freight took such a blow for it. patsbimmer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsbimmer1 Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I wonder what the total cost to them was. That's interesting. I'll read the article when I get a minute here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just saw this on jaloponik.... http://jalopnik.com/a-michigan-town-is-forcing-this-man-to-sell-20-old-cars-1797608865 Guy is selling tons of cars for cheap. tons of BMWS and among many others. I want to go there so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattY Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 who wants a racecar? https://m.facebook.com/groups/1056842037663446?view=permalink&id=1794710080543301 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Whats weird is someone will pay close to that because all of the foot work is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straight6pwr Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Jdesign said: Whats weird is someone will pay close to that because all of the foot work is done. Not weird - I don't think you could build/buy everything there for less than 20k even if you did all the labor yourself. Just the extras: 4x sets of ARC wheels w/tires: $5,000+ Spare LSD diff with clutch plates and m-finned diff cover: $800+ Take all that away and $15,000 for an s52 fully raced prepped e30 is a great deal if you ask me. Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I agree, I just have a hard time associating something like that with the cost because you can buy so much car for $20k now a days. Speaking of which, I passed up buying one of these a few years ago because the guy never responded to me and I bought something else. To this day I regret not waiting. https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/d/1996-mercedes-s600-v12-99k/6310951925.html For those of you that dont know, the motor in this is the same high reving monstrosity M120 that the Pagani Zonda uses. Just add full exhaust and the sound is amazing. Just listen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris3 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 I've seen the car in paddock and on track. This is a good deal for a GTS2 prepped car with all the parts included. General advice is buy your first and build your second. It gets you racing quicker and by that time you have a better sense if you're going to be all in and in what series. Doesn't always work that way and some folks build their first and some get stuck mid project. Life intrudes and projects get sold. Building to SCCA or NASA class versus building for chump, lemons etc also have different demands and price points. For those looking to buy a built car for NASA a well prepped clean SE30 runs in the $10-14k range. A car with GTS2 level prep like this swapped one or built on an e36m3 chassis moves you up the price brackets. Mid-$20k and higher... So yes pretty wild what folks might shell out for a built race car. Hits you all at once in this case versus the frog in slowly boiling water build your own experience. Either way you're still smiling as you get "cooked"... [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunMetalGrey Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Jdesign said: I agree, I just have a hard time associating something like that with the cost because you can buy so much car for $20k now a days. Speaking of which, I passed up buying one of these a few years ago because the guy never responded to me and I bought something else. To this day I regret not waiting. https://madison.craigslist.org/cto/d/1996-mercedes-s600-v12-99k/6310951925.html For those of you that dont know, the motor in this is the same high reving monstrosity M120 that the Pagani Zonda uses. Just add full exhaust and the sound is amazing. Just listen: I listened to the video while looking at the ad, and I just cannot see that car making that noise lol. Sounds cool though! Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Thats what makes it so friggin awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris3 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 If anyone is interested in taking the Spec E30 plunge, I know of three well prepped cars for sale in the Midwest area. No ads posted yet so I don't have details but I can put you in touch with the sellers. Jdesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggerty Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 5 hours ago, Boris3 said: I've seen the car in paddock and on track. This is a good deal for a GTS2 prepped car with all the parts included. General advice is buy your first and build your second. It gets you racing quicker and by that time you have a better sense if you're going to be all in and in what series. Doesn't always work that way and some folks build their first and some get stuck mid project. Life intrudes and projects get sold. Building to SCCA or NASA class versus building for chump, lemons etc also have different demands and price points. For those looking to buy a built car for NASA a well prepped clean SE30 runs in the $10-14k range. A car with GTS2 level prep like this swapped one or built on an e36m3 chassis moves you up the price brackets. Mid-$20k and higher... So yes pretty wild what folks might shell out for a built race car. Hits you all at once in this case versus the frog in slowly boiling water build your own experience. Either way you're still smiling as you get "cooked"... What is this racing thing you speak of? I understand the working on the car and never finishing thing quite well. Boris3, Jdesign and GunMetalGrey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B C Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 https://rockford.craigslist.org/cto/d/bmw-530i/6314642277.html Earl and patsbimmer1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 "Adult driven, never raced" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 That's a really odd car to set up for such duties. I think its going to be really hard to find a buyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsbimmer1 Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 I'm not even mad, i'm actually impressed that it was used to drift. I really want to see a video. The photo's are crap for the ad but he wrote it very honestly. Earl and Jdesign 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Roloff Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 My eyes... https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/1984-bmw-318i-e30-5-speed/6307759677.html B C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Roloff Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 Nice inexpensive set of wheels for an e30 if anyone's looking. https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/wto/d/borbet-15-7x15-4x100-wheels/6310315449.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdesign Posted September 21, 2017 Report Share Posted September 21, 2017 1 hour ago, P_Roloff said: My eyes... https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/1984-bmw-318i-e30-5-speed/6307759677.html I saw that on facebook. Looks like he did a great job masking..... Look at the mirror glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m42b32 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 NP/CP on Jalopnik today: https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/d/2000-bmw-323i-wagon-full-swap/6310344711.html I love that they left the exterior pretty much stock looking, awesome sleeper B C, Jdesign and The Full Banana 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris3 Posted September 22, 2017 Report Share Posted September 22, 2017 On 9/21/2017 at 10:16 AM, P_Roloff said: Nice inexpensive set of wheels for an e30 if anyone's looking. https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/wto/d/borbet-15-7x15-4x100-wheels/6310315449.html These look like Borbet Type H, strong wheel but heavy. Maybe 21 lbs in a 15x7?? Good for snow tires / winter hooning / potential curb smacking, etc If the seller is correct on the offset of +35 then you'll probably need spacers to fit on a regular e30 to get it closer to +25 for a 15x7 fitment. Should work on an ix though without spacers. P_Roloff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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